September 2007: Sever
responds to Ramona's questions.
RAMONA:
Thank you for this interview Sever. Below are the main questions I have.
Depending on your answers I might have more. Thank you again for taking
the time to do this.
SEVER: It's my pleasure Ramona. I really enjoy these kinds
of interviews because I can take time to think about my response,
whereas a sit-down interview tends to be rushed and I find my answers
sometimes to be inadequate. I would certainly answer any follow-up
questions you have as well.
RAMONA: Where were you born, at what age did music grab
your interest, and what kind of music was it?
SEVER: I was born in a small town in Poland, 1979. I had
the privilege to see many countries before I was even ten years old. My
parents kept moving and taking international trips. I got to see many
different places which sparked my imagination. I suppose I yearn to see
many more, perhaps that's why I want to tour so much. Throughout the
journeys and at home, I was still heavily immersed in Polish culture. My
parents listened to a lot of traditional Polish music, including Polka.
But I also grew up listening to the Beatles, Leanord Cohen, and other
rock n roll. An eclectic assortment that filled the background of the
house. I also sang a lot of old Polish folk songs when I started going
to the Polish version of boy scouts. 15 or so years more immersed in
song, dance, culture. It was magical.
Music did not really interest me, however, until I was about to enter
High School. Nirvana, Guns & Roses, Pearl Jam. These bands peaked my
interest and fed my indulgence for teenage angst. But that did not
compare to when I was in grade nine, around 1993 or so, and I heard
NIN's "The Downward Spiral". I was high as a kite at some dark house
party when on comes a song called 'Hurt'. It blew my mind. I promptly
bought this strange, alien record. It scared and tantalized me at the
same time. Mechanical yet highly emotional. It was a perfect match for
my consciousness. Thus started my love affair with Reznor's music. I was
a rabid fan from that day on, and would remain a die-hard loyal
supporter for many years, until my own music limited my need to listen
to other artists.
RAMONA: Can you recall the moment as you were listening to
NIN, Pink Floyd, The Doors etc. these bands that you have said are your
major influences, that you decided that you wanted to make your own
music and take it down your own unique musical road?
SEVER: A good question Ramona. It was not so much a moment
but a series of them. A gradual evolution from being a listener to an
artist. It happened not long after I fell in love with Reznor's music. I
had this old Yamaha keyboard, a PSR-003 or something like that. I would
record myself playing the clunker on the computer using windows media
player. This was before Windows 95, back in the 3.1 stage of the game,
when dinosaurs still roamed the circuit boards. Back then you had a
"boost button" that doubled the speed of the computer, in case you
wanted to see your favorite game do a speedy Gonzales or something.
It was ancient technology by today's standards. A cool effect on media
player was "reverse" or "echo". Come to think of it, those were like the
only effects. Anyway, I would grab a few spoons, some pots and pans, and
start banging away while trying to navigate the keyboard. All I could
manage to record was about one to two minutes at a time because of
memory limitations. When I was feeling particularly clever I down-mixed
what I had onto a cassette deck (remember when you had to push play,
record and the pause button all at the same time?) and continued on this
way until I had a five or more minute song. It was an archaic but
alarmingly fun way to do it. It was also novel, and somehow felt like I
was at the forefront of where music was going.
By the time I was in the eleventh grade I had a few more instruments.
Among them a drum machine, a heavy metal guitar pedal (no guitar yet),
and a four-track. At this stage I was a rabid musician, although what I
actually came up with was nonsensical, no matter how much I raved about
it. It simply sucked. I had the same kind of delusions you'd see on
American idol nowadays. But I believed in what I was doing.
I had a blast distorting drum beats and recording what I came up with on
the four track. That really formed the basis of what I was to do years
later. I would sing and scream to NIN records using a floor lamp as a
microphone. It was just so fucking cool to pretend you were Reznor up
there on stage trashing shit. What really did it for me is seeing Nine
Inch Nails at Woodstock. I must have played back footage of "Happiness
in Slavery" hundreds of times, studying every nuance, every angle, every
gesture. It was a total obsession.
Not long after I took a big step by convincing my parents to buy me a
computer recording system. I chose to use Cubase software on a PC
platform, for "compatibility" reasons. Of course, the "compatibility"
never came into use and I found myself having to argue with everyone why
the PC was perfect for my needs, as everyone well knew a Mac was where
it was at. At the time the Mac was light-years ahead of the PC for music
recording purposes and I found myself navigating uncharted waters. I did
not end up meeting anyone recording with a computer till college really.
Because of this I went through a tremendous amount of trial and error. I
lost a lot of material in the process just to have a stable recording
medium, which didn't really happen till Windows XP came out. That was
the pitfall of the PC. Back then Windows was terribly unstable, and I
didn't have a clue what I was doing. It was hell, simply hell when
something went wrong, and man did things ever go wrong.
Through it all I was lucky to have supportive parents who nurtured what
I loved, even though they did not quite approve of it. (Reznor and
Marilyn Manson were definitely "Devils" and "Evil" in my parent's eyes).
I started taking voice and piano lessons to give me some semblance of
competence. It's funny how things work out though, because I absolutely
hated music in school. I dropped the subject in grade 9 and at the time
thought good riddance, glad I never have to deal with that again in my
life.
This time though I had a wonderful teacher who taught me that music was
about feeling and simplicity. I would bring him my latest
computer-recorded mixes and he would criticize them with the aim of
helping me improve them. He catered to my needs and taught me, in the
limited time we had together, what I needed to know to get my songs
listenable. It was around this time that I made the choice to do it for
the rest of my life. It was a conscious choice. I hunted around for some
way to do it professionally, and settled on a Music Production and
Engineering college based out of London, Ontario Canada, which deserves
its own chapter. By the time I got to college my imagination had already
given me the stage, even though there was a terrible disconnect between
my imagination and reality.
RAMONA: You said Tribal Machine came to be as a solo
project when you were still in college studying musical production and
engineering. Where did the name Tribal Machine come from?
SEVER: Yes, in my first year of college I gave the project
a name and made it "official". I spent a lot of time trying to find a
good name for it. I settled on "Tribal Machine" for a number of reasons,
but mostly because of the philosophical attitude the name took. In my
mind it represented a nice duality of humanity struggling with
technology, direction and its own animal roots. Hence the title of the
first record, "The Awakening of the Animal".
RAMONA: What made you decide to add Brad Wutke and Brian
"Meta" Hartlen and say yeah these guys need to be a part of this?
SEVER: Many years later, when I was living in Nanaimo, BC
Canada, I met some very talented musicians who I asked to contribute to
the project and help it go 'live'. It was very gradual and it kind of
gelled together over time. Although TM had many members come and go, In
late 2004 we actually started to rehearse a good deal as a unit, or
"band". We've had a few more members come and go since then, and we're
looking to find a drummer at some point and add a keyboard player too.
Both Brian and Brad have their own solo projects called "Metatron"
and "BuyProduct", and they're both incredibly talented people in their
own right.
RAMONA: Can you explain the gas mask?
SEVER: The gas mask was Brian's idea. He put it on while
we were playing live for a song once and it looked awesome. It's his
thing and it fits what we're doing.
RAMONA: Your music has been described as Industrial Folk
Rock.
Do you think that is a good description? If not how would you describe
it?
SEVER: I am not sure if it's the perfect description, but
it is apt at times. There are definitely story-telling folk-like
elements to the music. Although to really base it in the genre of folk I
think is a stretch. Since then I've come to kind of think of it as
Industrial / Classic Rock / Alternative with a dash of middle-eastern
chant and a pinch of folk.
RAMONA: What comes easier to you; the words or the music?
Do you hear the music first and write the words to it or do the words
come first and the music composed around them?
SEVER: The music definitely comes easier. Writing lyrics
that make sense with the music and also have something to say is the
most challenging thing in the world to me. I spend many hours banging my
head against the wall, sometimes listening to the same verse over and
over and over for hours on end until I come up with something
undeniable. It's a Darwinian process both musically and lyrically, in
fact. I also think that's the secret to it all. I bang out fifty or so
parts to a verse by the time it gets anywhere. Sometimes I delete whole
sections and start from scratch if it doesn't blow me away.
This next record I am working on will have a very high personal
standard. I have raised the bar to make sure only the best work gets in
there. So far it's fucking exciting as hell and I can't wait to release
it. My aim is to blow "Soldiers in a War of the Mind" out of the water,
and that will be tough as hell. I think as an artist you have to
challenge yourself. It's easy to fall into the trap where you think
you're some kind of genius just because people like your music. I feel
if you get stuck on the idea that whatever comes out of the tips of your
fingers or from your vocal is amazing and "art" then you are bound to
drown in mediocrity. I think no matter what level you're at or who you
are, you have to push yourself and really work hard and fight tooth and
nail for quality. Having the highest standard for your own art and music
is key.
As to how I write music itself, I kind of let things go where they
please. I never write a song really with a purpose in mind at the
beginning. Every time I try it totally backfires. I can sit down and say
to myself I am going to write the most beautiful and sad song ever and
by the time it's actually done it ends up sounding like some sort of
manic industrial freight train that's angrier than a motherfuck and is
barreling down at you. I find it's easier to have a general idea and
then kind of loosely form your thoughts and music around it.
Usually after the entire verse / chorus structure is complete do I then
sit down and try to iron-out lyrics. This is where the true challenge
comes and lately I've been taking to totally procrastinating with it in
some pathetic attempt to stave off the pain of having to write.
I am no longer content to sit down and just scribble nonsense. Every
song must have a strong story. If that's not there it's garbage and is
typically discarded or left behind. If the average keyboard / guitar /
drum part is kept for every ten separate takes for Tribal Machine, a
vocal and lyric is done about fifty times before it makes it into the
final mix. Mind you that's not always the case, when inspiration strikes
very little gets in the way. I am talking about the rest of the time
when you're an ordinary Joe trying to come up with something that's
inspiring and makes a difference.
RAMONA: You make strong political statements in your CD
"Soldiers in a War of the Mind". Will you continue using your political
voice musically in the future?
SEVER: Oh absolutely. That's the beauty of art, music, and
lyrics. You can interpret whatever you like. It's a blank slate and you
can write and say whatever you like, well, almost whatever. There are
social constraints and boundaries of course. But pushing them is so much
fun isn't it? And for me, it gives me purpose. The novelty of making
music has long since worn off and if there is no purpose driving you
forward then it's just a hobby. I feel like I have this strange arrogant
gift where I can decipher things in the public mood and kind of put them
down on paper, interpret them musically and let them fly back to their
owners in a different form. Kind of like a mirror. I want to tell
stories that reflect things, emotions, tragedies, the struggle of a
people destroying itself in so many ways. Sometimes that means I have to
delve into the political side of life. So be it.
Certainly not every record will be politically charged. I am planning on
release a record full of songs that have a much more human story to
tell, more individualistic and story-like. The stuff that didn't fit
into the themed records.
RAMONA: How would you describe your first cd and compare
it
to the second, Soldiers?
SEVER: "The Awakening of the Animal", in comparison to
"Soldiers in a War of the Mind", was a crude, volatile and emotional
record. Deeply personal in nature, it focused much more on the "I"
rather than the "we" as SIAWOTM does. TAOTA is sold out at this time,
although it's not the last you'll hear of the record. I have plans on
re-mastering it at a future date and adding a slew of songs that were
made in the same time frame that deserve to be on there, and releasing
it as a kind of follow-up. It will be recognizable but still entirely
its own entity. I totally want to keep the sanctity of the original.
RAMONA: How would you describe Tribal Machine Live?
SEVER: It's still an evolving thing for us, although we're
getting better and better with every show. It's getting more theatrical
and spontaneous. I love putting on a show and connecting with the
audience. Staring them down and spitting the verse while telling them a
story is quite appealing to me. It's definitely an experience for
everyone involved and we're continually pushing the envelope and
expanding the show. I have big plans for it and I can't wait to really
get the thing on an international level. I think the story that these
records tell translates well live, especially theatrically. I think that
although it is entertainment, it can provide meaning for some and can
express that meaning viscerally through a live show.
RAMONA: Any plans for touring in the near future?
SEVER: Well, we're still negotiating our way through the
music industry. Touring is a big thing and we're approaching a point
fast where we're going to need to tour the U.S. and Europe. But it's not
an entirely easy thing to do when you're totally independent. I hope to
enlist help on this matter soon.
RAMONA: Anything you would want people to know about
Tribal
Machine or Sever Bronny?
SEVER: I don't know how to answer that question really. I
guess the best thing for people to do is to tune in and listen to the
story, read the lyrics, come to the shows and check out what's been
written online to get to know what we're really about. In the end, I
think it's the music that is what's most interesting. Although if you
want to talk to me just hop on over to our myspace site at
www.myspace.com/tribalmachine and say hello.
RAMONA: How has myspace, the internet in general helped
in being a vehicle to promote music from unsigned bands like Tribal
Machine?
SEVER: It's been a tremendous help and has really shifted
the power over to the artist. I think it's far easier now than ever to
do your own thing. The net allows you to test who you are image-wise and
to feel out what the reaction is to your music. This gives you much more
flexibility because people will then work with you based on that rather
than what a record company deems is "Saleable". This is very important
when you're a guy like me who needs to be able to say anything he wants
on a record. I think it would have been much harder to write "Soldiers
in a War of the Mind" if we were on a constrictive label. I do think
that record companies have their place though. At this time it's not
very feasible to tour internationally without some kind of record-label
support. I am thinking Tribal Machine will have to find a home on an
independent label soon because I simply can't manage that kind of thing
all on my own. I also sick of paying bills. I'd rather focus on making
music and touring than all the distractions of everyday life. But then,
who doesn't?
The net has also brought forth a huge catalogue of music,
de-centralizing it and giving it a global air. We have fans from every
country now and we've been invited to places I've never head of. It's
very exciting to be able to answer fan mail straight-away and talk to
fans live online. For many people it's also a novelty to be able to talk
to the artist, as traditionally artists were unreachable and the closest
you got to one was at the foot of the stage or when you threw an empty
Evian bottle at them (sorry Marilyn). I consider Tribal Machine an
international band in every way really. And that's because of the
success it has seen on myspace and on the internet in general. I look
forward to seeing where it all goes.
RAMONA: What does the future hold musically for you?
SEVER: The future holds at least ten full-length albums
for Tribal Machine. That is a goal I have set and I look forward to the
journey very much. I have many many years left of making music, and I
feel I really have only just begun making serious music. The next album
will be a whole new Tribal Machine, and I can't wait to release the name
and a sneek preview.
RAMONA: Thanks again Sever.
SEVER: Thank you very much Ramona it's been a pleasure!
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